Hello.
Hey.
Um.
Hey.
So, the question of the night is, what do you remember most about your dad?
Well, he loved guns.
He loved hunting.
He traded, bought and sold a tray of guns all his life.
I can't remember him telling me when he was in high school.
Oh, wow.
He'd go duck hunting in the early mornings before he went to high school.
And then he always loved guns and hunting.
And then as he got older, and as I got older, he would pretty much, he'd come home from work and he would read gun magazines and gun bibles and all that.
While he was watching TV.
I remember that much about him.
And then he was always good at whatever he did.
You know, especially work related.
He just was really, really good.
He was always the best at it.
When he worked for Staten Island, California, he, we moved around a lot because he would get transferred around a lot because he, he worked, he worked as a regional rep, they called him.
So he would be sent to different regions, especially in California.
And he would be in charge of getting the company stations and also Chevron stations, which were dealers, kind of like a franchise, who bought and would sell company products and services.
But he would get his region up to number one all the time in the entire company.
And then they'd transfer him to the worst region in the company and they'd do it again.
So we moved around a lot.
I think he, he worked a lot.
I mean, he also liked to go hunting or camping on the weekends, hunting mainly or shooting.
I mean, one of the favorite things we did when I was younger, when I was in high school and junior high in Oregon, we, part of that time we would go shooting on a Saturday.
And that night we would go to Shakey's Pizza.
And that was a really good pizza place.
We'd go to Shakey's Pizza's, we'd be there with his friends in there.
And I was going to his and their families, and we'd gone out with him.
And that was a big highlight.
He liked to eat.
He was mainly meat almost every single night.
Wow.
I think the one few times that I can remember my own moments or something about me, she'd certainly go, where's the meat?
Sometimes she'd have to cook up some meat if she hadn't made it.
Wow.
Because he was really used to eating meat.
And then oftentimes we'd have dessert after dinner.
That was standard.
That was normal.
You'd have dinner and then we'd have dessert and we'd sit down at the TV and watch a movie or something.
A couple other things he really liked.
He liked classical music, mainly piano.
He loved piano music, as do I.
He would often listen to piano music on our stereo, on the records.
We never had, back then we didn't have what we have nowadays for music as far as technology.
So we would listen to records and also a lot of records that were based on musicals like My Fair Lady and The Five Little Pinneys and all kinds of stuff.
So I grew up liking that kind of music.
We never had rock music in my house when I was a boy growing up in their home.
Even when it came out, it was always the kind of music that I just described.
So I enjoyed listening to it. It was just something that I really enjoyed.
That's cool.
And the other thing he liked a lot was going to the movies.
Sure, I loved that too.
I think that's where I got it from.
He loved watching movies.
Shooting a lot of movies, stuff like Die Hard or James Bond or The Westerns.
One of his favorite actors was Errol Flynn.
He did things like They Died With Their Boots On, Dodd City, Robin Hood.
I just recorded two of those movies, Dodd City and They Died With Their Boots On, that's about custom.
So he loved anything with Errol Flynn in it and so why?
That's what I grew up on, the kind of movies I grew up on was shooting up violent movies, Cowboys, Westerns.
We love that kind of stuff, just absolutely loved it.
And so that's what I grew up on. Of course, nowadays they're a lot more violent.
So we love movies.
I really think that my dad did a lot of things for the family that he may not want to do, but he loved his family.
I can remember when we were much younger, like grade school and that.
Every year for vacation, we would drive back to Utah.
So that my mom could see her parents and dad would drop us off at Grandma and Grandpa Davis' house,
And then he would be gone most of the day because him and the Davises just did not give it all.
And that was, I think, from when he originally ended up marrying my mom that they weren't happy with him.
And his mom wasn't happy with the Davises.
But I remember that he would drop us off and then he'd be gone most of the day and we'd come back at night.
Sometimes he'd go spend time with his mom because he was an only child.
Other times he'd be going out and going to gun shops and that kind of stuff.
And then I do remember I was in business with him a couple times.
He bought a car wash when I was later out of high school up in Oregon.
We went back there and kind of retired.
We retired from Staring Oil California because they had promised him a Chevron dealership in Southern California,
the largest one in the state that was going to be building the largest shopping center in the state at that time,
just outside of California, which is probably about an hour north of San Diego, which is where we lived for a while.
And he and I were looking forward to really running it because we knew we'd get wealthy and we just thought that would be a great thing.
And the company said, well, before we give that to you, they kind of changed the deal.
You have to go up to Los Angeles and work.
He was in the ghetto area and cleaning up this region.
They were going to transfer him to this region.
I remember that was one of the few times I remember him and the whole family was involved in that decision.
Nobody wanted to go and he didn't want to go.
He said, I'm not going to do it.
I refuse.
And so they refused to give him the dealership.
Wow.
And so he ended up quitting.
We moved up to Oregon, where we'd been before.
Oh, yeah.
And up there we bought a car wash with gas pumps outside.
They had both self-serve and a car wash that they paid and then they would go through,
just like today, try to go through the different wash cycles.
So he and I ran that together for a few years.
And then he bought a – he got a Chevron – or not a Chevron, but a Shell station in downtown Cloud Falls.
We had both the car wash and the Shell station.
I ran the Shell station.
I didn't really have a mechanical background that I needed to do a whole lot of backroom stuff, repairs and that.
And so that – we had that for a while, but it wasn't my favorite thing.
But I remember he did that and I think he did that for – I remember he didn't move us back to LA to get married
because he just saw that and then we did First Family.
He just said, no, that's the last show I'm not doing that.
I remember that.
But he was a hard worker.
When he got out of high school, he went to work on the service stations in Utah.
And he worked really hard.
And then they moved to California to get away from both sets of parents, his parents and my mom's parents.
And he was a hard worker and he worked his way up from literally being the service station attendant
to being the assistant to the vice president of the entire company of Standard Oil California,
where he worked in the downtown high-rise in San Francisco right in the corporate offices.
So that was really something.
He's a very smart, very intelligent man.
He's very outgoing.
He was an extrovert.
I mean, he was just very outgoing.
People loved him.
Just very, very, very outgoing.
Those are some of the things that I remember about him.
But in later years, after he had moved back to Oregon,
he used to wear this cowboy hat whenever we'd go shooting or hunting or anything.
He was always with that.
He always had that hat on.
Always, always, always.
And he was a good shot.
He was a great shot.
But we'd go duck hunting.
We'd go goose hunting.
We'd go pheasant hunting.
We'd go quail hunting.
We'd go dove hunting.
We'd go deer hunting.
It was just something that he did.
And we'd usually miss my sister Chris's birthday, which is October 7th,
because that's when it was just before, just after, right when the deer season opened up.
And so he would be gone, or usually he and I would be gone.
We'd be out hunting and that.
Because a lot of times, we'd run a trailer.
We'd go out for a weekend or for a short week.
And that's some of the vacations that we took.
We'd go out into the mountains and just take a small trailer in our truck
with a small camper shell in the tent.
And we'd just be out in the woods, Lincoln shooting at birds and ground squirrels
and targets and that kind of stuff, and hiking.
And then he would just be out in the wild too, also reading what else?
Gun magazines and hunting.
So he always loved that.
He was like a walking encyclopedia when it came to guns and stuff.
I never met anybody who knew guns more than he did.
And he always had a lot of guns around the house, always.
So those are some of the things that I remember about him.
Our family was quite active when we were very young, like when I was in grade school and that.
And my dad was real heavy in his calling in church into scouts and scouting.
And back then he had a lot of non-members as well that would attend.
And my dad would usually have one of the best scouting groups,
and then he got into Explorer Scouts in the church.
But that also led to the inactivity because what was one of the bishops?
He didn't agree.
One of the bishops came in and said,
well, those boys that aren't members, they're not going to be able to participate
unless they attend at least one meeting in the church every Sunday.
It doesn't have to be all the meetings, but one.
And back then that's when you didn't have combined meetings.
It wasn't like then.
You'd have sacrament and then you'd go home and you'd have Sunday school
and then you'd come home and come back for priesthood.
It was all day, literally.
Yeah, that's hard to imagine.
Especially if you didn't live close to the church.
Well, yeah, in most of the places we lived, it wasn't like living here in Utah
where churches are close.
It was like sometimes it would be 35 minutes to an hour drive to get to the meeting house.
And so going home in between meetings was a big deal.
But we were in California when he had this...
He just didn't agree with the bishop that they couldn't be a part of it
unless they attended one of the meetings because he said they're not members.
They don't believe that way and they shouldn't be forced to do that.
So he said, if you're going to enforce this, I'm not going to be that guy anymore.
And the bishop said, that's what we're going to do.
And my dad just said, okay, I'm done.
And him and mom were inactive.
They kept taking us to church for a while and that's when I finally...
Once when he said, you know, it's not fair.
You guys don't have to go and you drop us off and then you go home.
And I said, that's not fair.
And he said, well, I kind of agree.
He said, okay, you don't have to go to the altar.
So that's...
Yeah, I never...
Ever heard anyone who's inactive deny that at church or anything.
So...
And in the later years he got reactive there, Jim and I.
I can remember in Clown Falls...
I don't think I've told you about this before,
but occasionally you would have home teachers come over
and all the rest of the family would run and hide in the bedrooms and that.
My dad and I would be the only ones out in the living room.
They'd come in and visit with us,
but all of my sisters and mom would hide and they wouldn't come out.
And my dad and I would be out there, so...
But...
When I got reactivated, went back to Beale and got reactivated
and got married eventually.
And I moved back to help my dad out with the car wash
because by then he was struggling back then.
And then eventually got him reactivated and then we got reactivated.
And then...
My sister got reactivated, Debbie.
So...
We got back into church and then...
That's when my mom and I divorced after 25 years of marriage.
Which really threw him for a loop.
He never saw that coming.
That was a hard period in his life.
But then, you know, we remarried.
We married an active woman, Sharon.
Sharon Marie Kane.
And I can remember when we remarried her.
I don't know how long it was after that, but he had a dream.
And he was quite...he was older then.
And so was Sharon.
She wasn't as old as he was.
She was younger than he was.
He had a dream and he had a voice.
Not a dream or Karen Murphy's awake or what.
And he literally heard a voice and it told him,
you shall have more kids.
And he was really surprised because he was older.
And we were too when he told Glenn and I.
Sure enough, eventually they had...
My stepbrothers, Larry Christians II and Todd Christians.
By then, at that point in time, Glenn and I moved back to Utah.
And so I didn't go out with him.
But I can remember him telling Glenn and I that and thought,
that was interesting and sure enough, he had two more kids.
He remembered that he said he would have more children, plural.
Not a child, but children.
So...
Yeah, Popper and Todd.
Yeah.
But those are some things that I remember about my dad.
That's cool.
Yeah.
He was a perfectionist, though.
Yeah.
That was sometimes hard to live with.
I can remember I'd get straight As and bring them home on the report card
and go, well, how come you get A pluses?
Oh, wow.
So...
Yeah.
That was the hard part.
Yeah.
It's part of where I get my perfectionism and my workaholic attitude.
That makes sense.
Attitude.
But I think he equated working hard with demonstrating his love for his family
and I did much the same thing.
Yeah.
Figured that's how you showed your love to your family,
is by working hard to support them.
Yeah.
It's amazing looking back on how you pick up these different characteristics,
traits from your parents that you may not think that you did.
Yeah, yeah.
Or you may say, I'm not going to be like my dad was,
or what you end up being.
You know, like they say, what is it?
As a father, I can't remember the same.
The child is the father of a man or something.
Oh.
Yeah, I don't know.
I can't remember, there's a saying, but anyway.
But those are some of the things that I remember.
That's pretty cool.
You had some hard times in those later years with finances and with health.
Yeah.
And everything.
That was difficult to see and to experience and see him experience.
My dad was always happy.
I never, ever, when we were growing up, I don't remember my dad ever being sick.
He just didn't get sick.
Yeah.
And I grew up with, same with me, it was a rarity for me to be sick.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Especially in my adult life.
Yeah.
But he was always healthy.
I remember he could do something if he set his mind to it.
He started smoking when he was on the service stations,
because back then you didn't get a break unless you took a smoke break.
He felt it wasn't fair that he didn't get a break because he didn't smoke,
so he took up smoking to get a break.
It was just a 10-minute break or so.
So then he smoked for about, I think, 16 to 20 years.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And then we were trying to get him as a family to, I think he was 35 or so.
We were trying to get him to smoke,
and we would do things like crush his cigarettes in the packs
and throw them away or hide them, but that didn't do him good.
And then one day I remember my dad saying,
I'm going to quit smoking, and that was it.
He didn't have another cigarette.
Wow.
I mean, he was just a guy that could do that.
He just, if he set his mind up to something, that was it.
He did it.
That's really cool.
Yeah, he just, he could do that.
And he was very, he could be a very stubborn man.
I remember one thing in particular when we were living in Vista, California,
and we got a ping-pong game and we played ping-pong.
He and I didn't get very, very, very competitive.
And I got to where I could beat him.
And I remember we were watching the Jets and the Baltimore Colts playoff,
I think it was in the second or third Super Bowl ever.
And the Jets were from the American Conference,
which back then was considered lesser than the NFL by many people.
And back then, Joe Namath was a famous Jets quarterback.
He was really quite a flamboyant individual.
He was a quarterback for the Jets,
and Johnny Unias was a quarterback for the Baltimore Colts.
And there were Baltimore Colts back then.
And that was my dad's favorite team was the Baltimore Colts and Johnny Unias,
and he thought they were great and couldn't do any wrong.
And I was a Jets fan because I didn't like Joe Namath
because he just did whatever he wanted to.
He didn't care what people said.
And so my dad and I bet on the game.
We just bet who would win, and the Jets pulled it off 16 to 7,
I believe the score was.
And we were playing ping-pong, and my dad got so upset that we kept playing,
and I didn't want to keep playing anymore, the ping-pong,
but he wasn't about to give it up because he was so mad about the Jets beating the Colts.
And I kept beating him, which was even worse, at the ping-pong.
And so I finally just threw down the towel and said,
I'm done, I'm not playing anymore.
It got pretty intense, but I can remember that.
That was something.
And then one time, I used to eat pretty good.
I used to eat a lot and drink a lot of milk.
And one time he made a statement, you know,
I could eat all my normal helpings of spaghetti,
and I would have a huge plate filled with spaghetti and my mom's spaghetti.
I could eat two full helpings of that.
And I said I could drink a gallon of milk.
Well, he made a bet that I couldn't do it.
And I did it.
That was a lot of milk.
And how much time?
But I did it.
He said you have to eat your normal helpings, and I did.
You know, I can remember that.
So it was pretty interesting.
That's cool.
Those are some of the highlights of it, I remember.
Wow.
Yeah, that was pretty interesting.
That's very cool.
But it was interesting because my dad was an extrovert,
and my mom back then was definitely an introvert.
Definitely.
So it was an interesting pairing.
Yeah.
And that's one thing we learned.
The other thing I remember about my dad is that he was a big teaser in our family.
That's what we grew up doing in our family, was teasing one another.
Yeah.
And it could get pretty intense on the teasing.
And so you had to be quick on your feet and thick-skinned.
Yeah.
But that's where I got my teasing from.
And then with my Mary-Glenda, that wasn't anything she was ever used to.
Oh, yeah.
That was a difficult adjustment for me to make with my wife, not to tease.
And that was very – because in my family, when I was growing up, that's what everybody did, you teased.
Yeah, that's how you communicated.
My mom usually wouldn't, but everybody else, me and my sisters and my dad, it was teasing,
and it would be teasing all the time.
Wow.
So it was just – that's just the way it was.
Wow.
Anyway, those are some things that I remember.
That's cool.
That seems like some good memories overall.
Yeah.
If you have another minute or a few other minutes, a few more minutes.
What?
Do you have a few more minutes?
Yeah.
There's a follow-up question on if you feel like addressing it.
I guess if your dad were here, what do you think he would share?
Like, what's the most important thing?
Like, what would he want people to know?
I think one of the things that he told me towards the end when sharing developed or dementia,
and he said, don't – he said, be sure and stop to smell the roses.
Don't put that off, because I think that's one of the things – when he finally did kind of retire from –
even when he retired from the standard at all, he eventually went into the – opened up a gun shop of his own.
Yeah.
But I remember when sharing developed the dementia, my dad would counsel me.
I started to call him more frequently.
And one of the things he would always say in the conversations is be sure to take time and stop and smell the roses.
Don't.
And I kind of would say yes, and I would do it often.
And now with the situation I'm in, I would say the same thing.
Don't wait to live your life.
Yeah.
There's more to life than working.
What there is is what my dad would say is it's all about the family, period.
That's nice.
I think that's something that – but I remember his counsel in his last few years was be sure to take time and smell the roses.
Don't put off stuff.
Do it.
Enjoy it, because his later years weren't spent the way that he had envisioned them, because sharing developed dementia.
Yeah.
And one thing that he'd always dreamed of all his life, he dreamed of going to visit Custer's last stand,
the monument and the field and everything, the area where he died where he made his last stand.
My dad was really into the history of Custer, and any type of Custer movie that was made,
he would see it, or when I was there he would see it, any type of Custer book.
He would buy it and read it.
But eventually he finally made it to Custer's battlefields.
And by that time Sharon really couldn't communicate to where you could understand what she was talking about,
because it was just nonsense.
The words didn't make any sense going together.
And at that point, my dad came back here to Utah for half a day, I think it was under half a day,
and he could barely walk, because the arthritis in his knees was so hoard.
But I remember he made it to that.
He took a long trip and saw now Rushmore and visited the Custer Memorial and the battlefields and all that.
So he fulfilled the dream that he'd had for many, many, many years.
But that's the counsel that I received in the last couple of years is stop and smell the roses.
Don't put that off, because you don't know what's going to happen.
And you're right.
That's what I would say is family is most important in your relationships with both your family and other people is what counts in this world.
Nothing else counts.
It's your relationships and the love and the service that you do for and with other people.
And I think that's really his final message to me.
But family was always, always extremely important to my dad.
I think that was his number one thing.
So anyway, that became a phrase he would use in the phone calls that I make to stop.
Be sure you stop and smell the roses.
And then he got sick and he got paralyzed.
And he ended up having to put Sharon in the home before that occurred.
It was extremely, extremely hard for him because he took care of her for five or six years when she had the dementia.
And he just couldn't do it anymore.
I think it just wore him out physically, emotionally, every way that you can be worn out.
I think it just really wore him out.
And then to put her away, the home was just excruciating for him.
And then he'd go up and see her two or three times a week and visit with her even though she wouldn't really know who he was.
So I think that would be what he would say.
But even now I visualize him up in heaven with his fedora, his cowboy hat, and his smile.
He always had a great smile and a laugh.
Always, you know, my dad's dark-haired, dark-skinned.
I mean, he looked at him like crazy.
Very dark, I tell you.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Well, awesome.
Well, thanks.
Thanks for chatting.
Yeah, thanks for calling.
Yeah.
I really enjoyed this time.
It's nice to just...
It's like I always loved hearing your stories.
And so it's nice to hear them.
It's nice to learn about things.
Yeah, I think when we're done or whatever, we should have him...
I'll be happy to pay for it, have him transcribed by some end.
I definitely want to get it in print and give it to the family.
And then also I want to have it download it onto Grammar Search.
Yeah, that's a great idea because, yeah, then it's more widely available, too.
Yeah, and you can do photographs and everything on there.
Yeah.
So anyway, I'll look at the temple work, the cards that I have, and then see what Debbie says.
Okay.
Debbie's in a different situation because their temple is in a different...
It's smaller.
Oh, yeah.
And because it's not busy, you have to make appointments to go there.
Yeah.
To do endowments, to do any work, because they're not open.
Oh, yeah.
You know, and then Frank's in the state presidency.
So time-wise, I don't know how much time we have.
She seems to be so busy all the time.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Well, anyway, yeah, send them our way.
Okay.
Yeah, I'd like to get them done soon.
I'd like to get them done before I pass away.
Hopefully that's not going to be soon, but, you know, I just want to make sure at least
they're done.
Yeah, for sure.
Anyway.
Yeah, we can take care of them.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, it appears that I can't get sealed to my mom and dad until my mom has passed away.
Oh, oh.
And I don't know.
I might go before she does, so.
So I'm going to ask you to promise me.
Okay.
That if I can't get it done while I'm alive, you make sure I get sealed to my mom.
Okay.
And to my dad.
Okay.
Please.
You can seal me to my mom and to Howard.
Okay.
But I definitely want to be sealed to my dad and my mom.
Okay.
I can do that.
So.
And since you're the only one in that temple, recommend besides us.
Okay.
Yeah, I can all do that.
Okay.
Thanks.
Is there anything going on?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's been.
Yeah, it's going well.
I got a calling.
I told you that.
I think.
Certainly school president.
Yeah, that's going really well.
Works.
Works going well.
I'm feeling more comfortable there.
Good.
After, yeah, after like a couple of one-on-ones with my boss.
To get like.
To better understand like what's.
What's expected and stuff.
And yeah, we.
We.
We got to see an old friend from Provo today.
Yeah, yeah.
So she.
She came over.
And she like, we.
We saw her like basically once, maybe twice last summer when we were here.
She babysat Eve while we went to Six Flags.
But yeah, she.
She was out here doing a master's in art.
In like, what is it called?
In like.
I can't remember the name of it, but it's like.
Progressive art or like.
It's basically comic book art.
Basically her master's.
So anyway, it was an illustration.
And.
And yeah, so we, we got to chat with her and.
And you know, things are going well and she's, she's moving in like two days.
So.
But it was nice to just, to just visit an old friend.
You know, talk about like.
Talk about graphic novels and.
You know, and.
Oh yeah.
And the difficulties of doing a master's and just like.
Just, just, just nice.
So, you know.
So yeah, things are.
Yeah, things are, things are going good.
We're, you know, we're figuring out life here, trying to make friends.
Catherine got to do a girl's night out on Thursday that went pretty well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, we're trying to like, you know, exercise in the mornings.
And like, and I also still have a little bit of thesis work.
I have to do in the mornings.
Because they keep sending it back.
Yeah.
Almost I think like, I don't know how many rounds of revisions it's gone through.
But the, the change I need to make this week is.
On like six different pages.
The page numbers need to be moved up about two millimeters.
And it's just like.
Okay.
And then once that's done, then I can submit it to like, to the next committee up.
And then hopefully they don't send it back to me for more.
So it's just the, it's just like, well, whatever.
Yeah.
So, so yeah, but that's, that's just about done.
It'll just be nice to be done.
And then kind of have like, like we get, I'd like to, mornings are nice.
It's nice to be able to go exercise in the mornings or like read scriptures in the morning.
Or I look forward to even being able to do some like personal study in the mornings.
I mean, like I want to learn about, you know, whatever I want to learn to play the electric guitar that I have or something.
And morning, like right now in our lives, like morning is pretty much when that can happen.
When we have kind of our own personal time for that's like just for each of us.
Or the rest of the day, it's, you know, I'm at work, Katherine's with Eve.
And then at night, at night, we both really want family time.
And so it's, we try not to like split off.
Sure.
So, but it's, it's just interesting, like balance, trying to, trying to get the family time that we would like, but also getting the personal time that we would like.
And just, but also giving, giving Eve the time that she needs and deserves.
And, you know, and, and like fulfilling callings and reading scriptures and just having a balanced life.
It's, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So we, it's been good.
We've been, we hold family council every Sunday and kind of, we kind of plan out the week.
And then we'll talk about, you know, anything that's like, hey, let's, let's try doing this as a family.
Let's, you know, let's try implementing this.
Like tonight, I was like, you know what?
I would like to cook once a week because I enjoy cooking.
Plus when I do cook, I actually, I think I appreciate, it helps me appreciate that Katherine cooks so much.
Like, I cooked on Saturday just because she was out, she was out getting, oh, like running errands for us.
Like, anyway, running to Costco to get photos printed and taking care of emissions on the car.
And I stayed home with Eve and then just stuff went longer.
So I, I prepped dinner and I was like, wow, this is a lot of work.
Like I enjoy cooking, but it's still a lot of work.
Yeah.
And it's just good.
It's a good reminder to me to not take, to not take that for granted that like she puts a lot of work in.
So, you know, it's like I want to, I want to cook both for my own enjoyment and so that I don't take it for granted.
Yeah, because that's easy to, that's easy to take stuff for granted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So the family council has been really good to just have like, you know, one day each week that it's like, okay, if there's something we need to talk about, we can, we can usually just write it down to remember to bring it up during family council.
So that's been really good.
So, but yeah, but overall, like things are good.
We're just, you know, still just getting used to living out here with no family nearby and trying to, trying to make close friends and stuff.
Like, even at family council, we talked about, okay, when the baby is born, like, what do we, who do we call?
Who do we call the Kentucky for a few hours so that I can be at the hospital with Catherine?
Right.
So, so yeah, just like, we're, we're happy, like, yeah, we're really happy and it's been a fun and it is a fun adventure to be out here, like in a different place and like different surroundings and just like very different from Utah.
But it brings along with it plenty of challenges that, you know, we wouldn't have.
We wouldn't have necessarily if we didn't move out here.
But I'd say overall life's life's really good.
It's busy, but it's really good.
Well, I should, I should get back to.
Oh wow, it's 917. Yeah.
I should get back to Catherine and he's already in bed.
Where are you at now?
I'm just, well, I'm just in the living room.
So, yeah, I called you and Catherine called her dad.
Okay.
Yeah, that's great. Thanks for calling.
Yeah, thanks. Thanks for making time for it.
This is good.
Nice. Well, I hope, I hope the pain subsides. Is it, is the drugs work in for you?
Sometimes the pain in the left groin isn't as bad during the day or at night.
But this pain in my left, I feel like the trap is like, who knows, maybe the cancer's new down there.
Now it's in the bone of my left shoulder where the bone joins or close to where the arm is.
It was severe just when I started eating.
I'm up here in the bed watching TV. Of course, I'm not watching it now.
But when I laid down waiting for mom to bring dinner up, it was, it was so bad,
I felt there was like a metal piece underneath my shoulder and I kept feeling on the bed to feel that there was nothing there.
Oh, wow. It was pretty, pretty intense. And then my, my knees get pretty.
Last night was probably the worst I've had in my knees when I went to bed. Oh, wow.
So we're going to go, I'm going in Wednesday to get a complete scan and see what the cancer's doing.
The oncologist was very surprised at how well I'm doing and all my blood work and all my vitals and everything were excellent.
Yeah, that was, I liked hearing that.
Very surprised. And I've been, a couple of days in the house, I was walking without the walker,
just like yesterday and the day before, almost pretty normal because I didn't have pain in my left groin bone.
But I've started to develop the pain in the left shoulder and in the knees and that's making it hard again.
So we'll see how it goes. I'm still working on the radical ignition.
So I still don't want to pass away yet. I'd like to have more time with mom and family.
Yeah, yeah. So I'm religiously doing my alternative therapies as well.
I'm studying the scriptures every day. A lot of prayer, awful lot of prayer.
Thanking him for small other miracles like being able to pee without it plugging up.
That's why I don't have to have the catheter.
Anyway, you learn to appreciate small little things.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Well, I'm glad. Yeah, I'm glad. Yeah, I'm glad to have time with you. It's been really nice.
Yeah, it's nice. And Sid came and visited me yesterday with his kids and that was nice too.
That's good.
That's good to see him. Probably the longest he leaves, which is probably surprising to his brand.
Just busy or?
Yeah. Yeah, I just don't get to visit or see him very much.
And I think that he, from what Avery had said quite a while ago, he doesn't know what to do.
He wants to help, but he doesn't know what to do.
That's not Avery.
That was at least with, at least with when, I talked to him a little bit more when Mom was having her stuff.
I think it hit him pretty hard and I would guess it's similar now.
Yeah, and he was just like, he just didn't know how to talk about it with like, yeah.
Yeah, he didn't know what to say.
Yeah.
Maybe invite him to lunch or I don't know.
Yeah, something.
Yeah.
We've been out to the moon a couple of times.
I took him and Sid out with your mom to breakfast at the original pancake house a couple of times.
That's been a couple of months ago.
Oh, at least a month ago actually.
Yeah, a month to, about a month ago actually.
Five months ago.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll have to do that.
Well, I'm going to let you go.
Yeah, I should head.
Oh, I was going to say, let's see.
I was trying to think, since you watch a lot of TV, it sounds like, or sometimes you watch it?
No, there's some days that I almost never watch it, in other days.
It just gets old and I, you know, I like watching movies, but the movies that we get are either old or they're already and I can't, I just can't watch them.
You know, and after you see movies in the 90s, and I'm getting a lot of movies that are, you know, you never heard of, especially if they're more recent, you never heard of and you wonder, well, are they any good?
And you start and you think, oh, Jesus.
I did get a Chromecast.
Oh, yeah?
And Sid installed it yesterday upstairs in the bedroom, but it doesn't, the connection's not always good.
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
Oh, that's...
But I did buy a Chromecast, I think, I bought a refurbished one from, on the Groupon.
It was half price, so, the refurbished from Groupon.
So I did buy a Chromecast, but I'd have to have you probably put in writing how to do stuff, or text me, or email me, I mean, I don't know that I could do it over there.
Oh, yeah.
You know, and I get those movies that you get, so.
Yeah, we'll see what I can do.
Do you have, I was like, me and Catherine watched a few really good ones recently I could mention on Amazon.
Oh, really? Because we have Amazon and Netflix, but I almost never check them.
Yeah, we listened to, what did we watch?
We watched one that's currently free on Amazon.
I don't know if you like animated movies.
Yeah.
But we watched one called Song of the Sea.
Song of the Sea?
Yeah, and it's, it was nominated for, like, best animated feature, I think, just last year.
It's like a, it's a weird, it's a, I think it's got, I think it's based on, like, Celtic mythology, or something like that.
And I don't even know how to, it's like, I don't even know how to explain it.
But it's, basically it's this, anyway, this kid and his sister, his sister is, like, kind of this, some mythical creature, and he's, like, I don't know, helping, helping her save these elves and stuff.
I don't know, it's really hard to explain, but it was, it was really, a really...
Song of the Sea, okay.
Yeah, Song of the Sea.
And then there was another one, oh, and one that I saw forever ago, it looks like if you got it on Amazon, you'd have to rent it for, like, three bucks.
Uh-huh.
Is called Searching for Sugar Man.
Searching for Sugar Man.
Yeah, it's a documentary.
We saw it, we saw it at, at BYU, I don't think it was edited.
Let's see.
And yeah, it's a documentary about this guy that they call Sugar Man.
And he had, like, one, like, one huge album in the 70s, one or two, that was, like, didn't go anywhere.
Oh yeah, I've heard about.
Yeah, it's, except, and in, I think in Brazil, it was, like, massive and, like, it defined a whole generation, basically.
Uh-huh, yeah.
And everybody thought he was dead, just because he, he just disappeared.
Yeah.
And it's, have you seen it, or you just heard about it?
I've heard about it.
It was awesome.
It's really, it was, like, it was great, I don't know, it popped into my mind just, like, two days ago.
And I was like, that was a really good movie, and it's been at least two years since we've seen it.
Wow.
And it looks like it's on Amazon to rent for a couple of bucks.
And it was just really, like, really touching, really, really cool, so.
I'll check those two out, man, because I get, you know, a lot of movies are annoying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but these, that's, yeah, I figured out, like, sometimes it's like, um, these, I haven't heard of this, it gets OK reviews, but yeah.
But these were, we really liked both of them.
They were great, so.
Yeah, there was one I watched last week.
It was a soccer one.
It's about a Mexican kid that, um, his dream is to play professional soccer, but, you know, the chances of that occurring are astronomical.
And it was called Goal, and then something else behind that, that part of that title, Goal, comma something.
And it was really good, really good.
And it was, it was clean, so, you know, it wasn't rated R or anything.
It was, it was really good. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Really, really good.
Oh, Goal the Dream Begins?
Goal what?
Goal the Dream Begins?
Yeah, that's it.
OK, nice. I have Amazon apps.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, I really like that movie.
And just when you think it's going to end, it keeps, it keeps going.
It's good.
It's not really predictable.
Yeah, it was really, really good.
I watched it by myself.
Nice.
Yeah.
Nice. Well, yeah.
Well, now we, yeah, now we both have some good movies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I'm watching a series, it's only like three episodes on, I think it's Masterpiece Mystery right now.
On Sundays it's, it's about Saral Arthur, Conan Doyle, you know, the Arthur of Scotland.
Oh, yeah.
It's about him per se, and he's investigating this, an older crime that was committed.
It was really good.
I watched it last Sunday and now it's the second episode tonight.
I think there's just three episodes on it.
What's it called?
It was really quite good, the first one.
It's like that was entertaining.
It was only like an hour, so it's not all night, but anyway.
Yeah, it was, yeah, Masterpiece Mystery, and what's the name of it here?
Let's see what the name of it is.
That's weird, this isn't working.
Here it is.
Arthur and George.
Yeah, it's called Arthur and George part, well, I'm on part two, and it's new, it's 2015, so.
Okay.
But the first episode was last Sunday.
Anyway.
Okay.
But I learned on channel seven that you could watch past episodes on the computer anyway.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
It'd be nice if my Chromecast worked.
Yeah.
Yes, it set it up yesterday, but it's really hitting this.
Huh, that's weird.
I mean, just because your wireless is so close, it should work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Oh, yeah.
All right, well, I know you got it.
Yeah, well, I should get to bed soon, actually.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I love you a lot.
All right.
Love you, too.
And we'll see you well.
Thanks for calling.
Oh, yeah, thanks for taking all the time.
And we'll talk to you, talk to you soon.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks.
Yep, take care.
All right.
Okay, bye-bye.
Bye.